Pope Francis shocked everyone with his phrase about God and gay men

Cheryl Kahla
Sep 12, 2018
07:30 A.M.
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Pope Francis has been making headlines for years now when it comes to the debate around homosexuality.


In an interview with El Pais, Juan Carlos Cruz explained that the Pope apologized to him and said: "being gay doesn't matter."

Cruz was a victim of sexual abuse at the hands of a Chilean priest and was a key whistleblower in Chile’s clerical abuse scandal earlier this year.

He discussed his ordeal with the Pope, who was comforting and took the news of abuse seriously. Read more on our Twitter account, @amomama_usa.


According to Cruz, the Pope said he was "a perverse being," and not a saint, but also added that:

"God made you like that and loved you like this, and I don’t care. The Pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are."

When asked if the Pope could go down in history for changing the church's "attitude toward sex abuse," Cruz said he was optimistic.


He said the Pope treated him and the other victims of the Chilean priest "like Kings in Santa Marta and treated all the bishops like children." He added:

"It is obvious that we’re the ones that he believed."


According to Cruz, the Pope was also given the wrong information about him, such that he was an enemy of the Church and a non-believer.

Cruz was thankful for the opportunity to present his case in person because his "faith is tremendously important to" him.


Thanks to Cruz and others stepping forward about the abuse they experienced in the Church, 34 Roman Catholic bishops have submitted their resignations.

The Vatican has since found 87-year-old Fernando Karadima guilty of sexual assault against children and had his clerical duties stripped.


Unfortunately, Karadima is yet to be sentenced or be charged in a court of law.

Pope Francis also made headlines back in 2013 when he told reporters that he cannot judge a person who is "gay and looking for the Lord."

Earlier this year, the Pope said in a conversation with well-known atheist Eugenio Scalfair that hell doesn't exist.

He said sinners "are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and go among the ranks of the souls who contemplate him."

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